• Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    My school district is WAY smarter than this, all the teachers and staff just start saying the words more than the kids do until they think it’s corny.

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      25 days ago

      This

      Making lists like that is authoritarian and won’t work. Making the words worthless works

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          24 days ago

          Because some adults feel out of touch and must crush the new slang while forgetting that the same thing happened to them as kids until their slang became common parlance. Eventually this current crop of kids will do the same to the next generation and the cycle will continue.

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            24 days ago

            Because schools are supposed to be raising up people who speak in a way that can be understood and indicates some intelligence.

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              You literally used the term “dunk on” like three comments ago. A bit hypocritical to criticize the use of slang, don’t you think?

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                24 days ago

                I mean, fair enough. But have you heard kids these days? Between the algorithmic feedback loop that is the modern internet, the disinterest of parents in actually parenting their kids, and chatgpt… I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be a bit concerned about how uneducated the children in our education system are coming off. It’s not me being classist, it’s valid criticism of a systemic failing.

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                  23 days ago

                  You do know that you sound exactly like your parents, right? And their parents said the same too. Every friggin next generation does this, this is not news, man.

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                  It’s actually you being ageist and not understanding how languages work. Your complaint is identical to Boomers complaining about how Gen Xers and Millennials talk just with updated tech. It’s a cycle that goes back many generations. The lack of funding for education actually has little to do with it .

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              Languages are primarily created and evolved by teenagers. It’s always been this way. Each new generation finds new ways of contextualizing the world, and new ways of explaining aspects of it. Teenagers create tons of new experimental words. Most have short half-lives and peter out over time. Some turn out to be genuinely linguistically useful and survive the test of time.

              It’s a safe bet that the vast majority of words you use on a daily basis were first uttered by a teenager somewhere in the recent or distant past.

              Language evolves through teens.

      • beejboytyson@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        “Ill bless you Youngins🥷 with the Rizz🔥 your gonna need for the low 🔑test on Monday, no cap 🧢💯!!!”

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    24 days ago

    It’s such a bizarre list too.

    They’re not cusses. What’s wrong with “love that for you”? I could’ve easily seen myself saying that in 2009, is the meaning vastly different than what I think?

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    You doin too much

    Love that for you

    Why?

    Also, you can’t stop language from changing. Change is certain. We don’t talk like people 100 years ago and that’s a good thing.

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      26 days ago

      My guess is they are used sarcastically/ironically and whoever made the board is sick of hearing them.

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    26 days ago

    This is literally just banning AAVE in class. That teacher probably thinks she’s an anti-racist “ally”.

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      the problem is aave gets appropriated by white kids who abuse an actual dialect for their slang and overuse it.

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        Gen Z appropriating AAVE and turning it mainstream is probably one of the most annoying things I have to deal with as a black person. Like, yeah, I shouldn’t gatekeep language, but can they at least give credit?

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          This has always happened. It’s just the story of Rock and Roll all over again. And funk. And hip-hop. And rap. Also the story of “american” food.

          Now, as a cishet, rather privileged white guy in america, I can understand the appropriative nature of all of this. We do it to every culture we see. It’s what we’ve done with anime and Japanese culture and cuisine. It’s what we’ve done with Mexican food, Indian food, and every possible form of East Asian spiritualism. It seems to me, from the inside, like the white american identity is basically just “I see this, and I think it would look/sound/taste really good on my wall/radio/plate, but it needs to be tailored to my preferences”

          But I do wonder, as a genuine question:
          Wouldn’t that be more okay, from the perspective of those whose contributions to world heritage have been appropriated, if the white person didn’t immediately turn around and say “I made this”?

          Like, I am in my 30s, and it wasn’t until I first watched a Madea movie last year that I realized that “finna” was not a modern intentional misspelling of “gonna” courtesy of the snapgramheads, but literally an elision of AAVE “fixin’ to”, which I’ve been hearing my whole life. I agree that people should know from where they get their sayings, whether they’re saying “finna” or <fakes british accent> “please sir, can I have some more?” (A student quoted this yesterday in an after-school club and I bet another teacher that the student didn’t even know the context of the quote, let alone what they were quoting. If we had been betting money, I would have left a dollar richer)

          But I’d be interested to hear your take on how best to educate people on the origins of these terms. I’ve had to talk to my spanish-speaking students several times about how saying “mongolo” for ‘idiot’ is SUPER offensive, because it’s derived from a double slur against people with down syndrome and people of Asian descent. How can I, as a teacher, or we, as citizens of the internet, properly assign understanding, credit, or significance to the words these kids are spewing without any concept of what they actually mean, let alone where they came from?

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            I mean all that I ask really is for people to know the meaning and where those terms came from, not just repeat them like it’s some sort of trendy thing to say.

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      it’s AAVE, not made up, and there’s literally no reason why “gonna” should be more legit. it’s the exact same construction.

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            That’s a fair question. My most honest answer isn’t a very good one: I can’t stand it.

            Linguistically, I don’t get it. “Fixing to” doesn’t seem to offer any benefit over “about to” or “going to” and as far as I can tell it doesn’t have any logical meaning at all.

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              but that’s not how language works. if you’re gonna dissect parts of phrases like this, “about to” makes even less sense.