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    It’s getting more efficient by the day. They used to have to launch it into the air before it had blow up. This way it saves time

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    MAYBE if we Cut the FAA and OTHER Regulatory agencies it’ll not Explode next Time?

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      Musk is going to be PISSED when he finds out there is no bureau of physics he can subsume or destroy from within. I believe one Rush Stockton came to a similar conclusion, if he indeed had time for that conclusion to even form before perishing.

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        Elon should really pilot the next starship himself. Just put a small 1 person capsule on top (or maybe even 5 people so he can take some of his billionaire friends along) and connect a playstation controller to the engines. Stockton did it, and he made several succesful trips. What you do yourself, you do better!!

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    People really put the faith of the entire American space program on Elon. It would be funny if it wasn’t so stupid.

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      It’s less that people are putting faith in Elon (sure, some fanatics might be), but it’s that everyone else is somehow even worse.

      SpaceX is actually getting stuff to space, despite their prototypes blowing up. Hell, even if this Starship thing is a complete failure and never works, their existing rocket, the Falcon, is still far beyond any of the competition.

      The SLS: $10 Billion and a decade late to develop a ship that recycles old Space shuttle parts, then costs $2-3 Billion per launch, and maybe can only launch one every 2 years.

      ULA Vulcan: currently years late, still finding problems, and even after all that gets worked out, it can maybe do 6 launches a year?

      SpaceX: 1-2 launches per week.

      That’s not faith, that’s just facts. I would absolutely love to have somebody else step up and take SpaceX’s crown, but… there really isn’t anybody. Bezos’s Blue Origin may have the biggest chance, but they are more likely to act like ULA than SpaceX.

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        Let my try and distill that. SpaceX is capable of doing some good work, when Elon leaves them alone.

        Remember, Starship is Elon’s napkin drawing idea of making a big cheap steel tube. Bigger and bader than everyone else! For a mission that doesn’t exist, which it’s not even designed properly for. Starship is 100% Elon’s blunder and he’s made so many insane promises for it that it’s dragging SpaceX down.

        Starship is SpaceX’s Cybertruck.

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      Falcon 9 has launched over 500 mission with a very high success rate. Of course the bulk of advancement should be coming from NASA and we need to spend more there, but SpaceX is putting up big numbers in successful payload lifts.

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      Boeing and someone else are trying too. Way behind Space X. So no, not “entire space program”…

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        Fuck all commercial dependency. Fully fund NASA, and let them like what they did back in the 60s, which no company could have done.

        Stop relying on corporations to lead our space programs. It’s too important to leave to grifters and corner cutters.

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          NASA has always been dependent on commercial for profit entities as contractors. The Space Shuttle was developed by Rockwell International (which was later acquired by Boeing). The Apollo Program relied heavily on Boeing, Douglas Aircraft (which later merged into McDonnell Douglas, and then merged with Boeing), and North American Aviation (which later became Rockwell and was acquired by Boeing), and IBM. Lots of cutting edge stuff in that era happened from government contracts throwing money at private corporations.

          That’s the whole military industrial complex Eisenhower was talking about.

          The only difference with today is that space companies have other customers to choose from, not just NASA (or the Air Force/Space Force).

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            NASA ran the projects. They have specifications to contractors for manufacturing. That’s a far cry from farming out the entire process and renting space on a commercial rocket.

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              NASA funded SpaceX based on hitting milestones on their COTS program. Those were just as available to Boeing and Blue Origin, but they had less success meeting those milestones and making a profit under fixed price contracts (as opposed to the traditional cost plus contracts). It’s still NASA-defined standards, only with an offloading of the risk and uncertainty onto the private contractors, which was great for SpaceX and terrible for Boeing.

              But ultimately it’s still just contracting.

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        If Starship wasn’t constantly exploding you might have a point. Seems as though that the reality is that they’re all pretty much at the same spot but Elon wants to pretend that they aren’t.

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    that’s how we know Musk isn’t a Nazi, Nazis could make rockets.

    /s

    (he is a nazi, just an incompetent one)

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          so European nazis are better than African immigrant nazis?

          did we just create a new layer of racism?

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            I think we did. But when it comes to Elon musk, he deserves a special kind of racism.

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              I’m racist against billionaires.

              you might say being a billionaire isn’t a race, but given that race science is 100% bs, I say why not?

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          i sometimes suffer from sparkling asshole, usually due to eating too much beans

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    It’s not perfect, but capitalism is the best system we’ve got. It is only through competition on the free market that we would arrive at a space program this efficient and innovative. Imagine if the government tried to do this! They would’ve blown up a 100 rockets by now with nothing to show for it, and it would’ve cost tax payers billions of dollars. The innovation of SpaceX is humanity at it’s finest. For thousands of years we’ve looked up at the sky, and wondered what’s there, and now, thanks to the engineering chops of Elon Musk, it is within our grasp. Imagine that, sending a person to space. Maybe someday we’ll even be able to put someone on the moon!

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      Such a remarkable achievement! We should put capitalists on the Starship ASAP so they can enjoy the fruits of “their” labor!

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      The efficiency of this is amazing, instead of actually sending it up, and waiting for it to blow up, they have figured out how to blow it up on the ground BEFORE launch. This is the kind of efficiency we need in government programs.

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        It’s life Jim, but not as we know it.

        Not as we know it.

        Not as we know it.

        Star Trekkin’ Across The Universe…

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    If you told me that I’d be cheering for space rockets exploding 10 years ago I would have called you crazy. Incredible how much damage that fiend has done to our society.

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      It’s incredible, isn’t it? I used to be so stoked on space exploration and all the science that goes with it. Still am, really, but my enthusiasm has cooled markedly once billionaires started throwing dick-shaped space missiles around for no other reason than being able to.

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    I think Honda has begun building spaceships/rockets too. Think they chose to build the type that don’t explode. link

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      We shouldn’t be building rockets PERIOD. They cost too much and are eventually only going to serve trillionaires.

      FIX SHIT ON THE GROUND FIRST

      That said,

      They did a test from 300 meters, sure it’s cool but I think they have a LONG way to go before they are competetive.

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        If you like SatNav, accurate weather tracking, and advanced intercontinental communication then ya like rockets ya dipshit.

        While Id be the first to ban private rocket launches outright, we shouldn’t abandon the advances of the space age because of them.

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    NASA should partner with Honda.

    How much taxpayer money was tossed at the fucking bottle rocket failure?

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      I hate the guy’s guts as much as anybody else, but he has kickstarted a space race, and an EV market. Credit where it’s due.

      And yeah I know, rich daddy, no inventions, all evolutionary, etc. But here we are.

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        You do not hate the guy’s guts as much as anybody else, or as much as is reasonable. You do not in fact have to give it to the Nazi scum. Any success or credit is due to the employees of the companies the inept pathetic narcissistic pro-fascism scumfuck is undeservedly running, often on fire and into the ground. If the resources he’s hoarding would be allocated by a reasonable, competent and humanist entity, we would all be much better off. Musk would be better off the planet. Shame that he missed this flight.

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          He didn’t invent EVs, nor batteries, nor rockets, not even vertically landing rockets, but perfected and especially turned them onto massive success. Too bad he went full idiot.

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            Perfected

            Press X to doubt

            Making something popular via a lot of lying and false marketing is not something I would’ve thought to read as perfected.

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        What space race?

        NASA us working on a shoestring budget and managed to run some very successful missions. The Artemis Program is/was very succesful, and what does NASA get?

        Budget cuts. Money diverted to SpaceX who, under Elon, has yet to do a single succesful mission (the Dragon capsule and reusable rockets were both projects that Elon bought. Starship is the first project that Elon directed).

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          Are you out of your mind? SpaceX didn’t buy a single thing, they developed and tested existing ideas (the reusability at least). I mean the guy is a total douche and Nazi but why spread these lies about SpaceX? I agree though that America’s future in space shouldn’t rely on SpaceX due to their affinity to a Nazi, and more funding should be given to NASA and other commercial endeavours

          This forum seems like Reddit sometimes but on the other end of the political spectrum

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            The US should not rely on private companies for stuff. It’s just insane to think it has come to America begging a person for global internet and to get into Space.

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    At this point I’d expect some brain leak from SpaceX. For some, no amount of money is enough to continue to work for a company associated to that toxic twat.