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    Ive been using adblockers, piped and other tools for so long that i dont even remember what the last time was when i saw a youtube ad.

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      Same… And if they ever successfully make it impossible to avoid, I’ll just stop watching YouTube

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      Hard to do if you watch directly from your TV using some dongle and don’t know or can’t modify your router to block ads.

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        SmartTube is on AndroidTV

        Kodi can be installed through the play store, you can transfer files over smb and ftp and move the apk using it.

        You’re welcome.

        Excuses:

        I use a Roku or Roku TV

        Don’t, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.

        I use AppleTV

        Don’t, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.

        FTP? SMB? Apk? What are these, words?!

        These terms can be searched for and learned about.

        Why not just use Kodi?

        You’re ahead of the game, find a plugin pack and enjoy

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    Occasionally I try the YouTube watch together thing on discord with my SO, and it really shows just how completely unusable YouTube is without an ad blocker.

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      The only ads I see are on a local sports podcast. The advertisers are all local businesses. From restaurants to local credit unions. And those I’m fine with.

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      By operating youtube at a loss for many years Google acted anticompetitively to kill competition or stop competition arising. Now that they’ve achieved that they can do what they like. Don’t feel bad using ad blockers against this anti-capitalist company.

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      Hosting and storage costs, few can afford to be an alternative to an absolutely gigantic video storage platform that costs obscene money to maintain.

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      People get proccupied with emulating YT, which is indeed cost prohibitive. But that response assumes one is emulating all of it. What about only pursuing sections of it to cater to particular audiences? Serving 100% of YT’s video might be too much even for Amazon (for example) but what about 1%?

      Why couldn’t Amazon host Booktube? And the manga/anime enthusiasts and other varietes of weebs to go along with them? They already own ebook retail. A VOD service to chip off some of YT’s viewership would be a more productive investment than The Rings of Power…

      A YT competitor needs a bit of scale, sure, but not as much as YT itself. A fraction will do.

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        I believe the main cost is in hosting all the videos. A lot of them are probably junk that were never meant to see the light of day. I certainly use it as an extra backup for many of my videos with no context and random UUID titles.

        For everything else, a potential solution is to have everyone come in with their own videos hosted elsewhere and the platform just integrated with a bunch of APIs for fetching and serving those videos. For small time creators, the cost should be fairly low to none since a lot of platforms allow you to store a small number of files for free.

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      OK, so a bittorrent tracker site with a video player built in with comments underneath and you can get perks from content creators for seeding. Then of course some kind of voting system and etc. Then a creator can just get a seed box to start hosting their own videos.

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        You’re right :)

        I meant idk something like Oddysse (but a website with actual moderation)

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          Do you know of PeerTube? It’s not mainstream at all either, but it seems more known to me.

          It’s also in the fediverse, and isn’t accused of the same moderation issues (though idk if PeerTube is really better than Odyssee at moderation, I suppose it’s just a difference in policy).

          Edit: I read a bit about it, and I can see I was wrong about Odyssee being less known than PeerTube. It’s strange, I never heard of it, but anyway. Odyssee also includes some crypto bullshit, so yeah…

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      It’s a very difficult business model to make profitable without an already massive userbase. In fact, I think YT was actually losing money for Google for a while after they bought it. I could be misremembering though.

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        Yes but not everything needs to make a profit, just not make a loss. Also it could be community supported with donations and stuff:)

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          YouTube was operating at a loss under Google for years. The only reason it is able to exist is because a massive entity like Google was able to absorb that without folding, and keep providing a free service until it becomes profitable (is it even yet? I’m not sure).

          I mean fuck Google, and yes a big enough non-profit (or even government) could do it (probably better), but unfortunately that’s not the world we live in right now.

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    When ads get in the way I simply don’t watch the videos. It’s not like anybody ever really needs to watch any particular video.

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      Educational content is hard to come by outside of YouTube, so it would suck to have to avoid watching those videos because of ads.

      But I’ll do what I have to do in order to avoid ads for as long as possible. And I’ll archive important content in the meantime.

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        I pay for nebula, they have a lot of educational content and the price is low enough that I don’t mind it

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          Sounds good, but if I search “microwave repair” or “improve vo2max” , it comes up with zero results.

          That’s the sort of stuff we’d lose if creators don’t move away from YouTube. 😟

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            Thats true, I once had to repair my washing machine and I could only find 1 video about the same model and same repair. It was a large Russian man that I could not understand (this was before auto generated subtitles).

            Anyways, I just looked at the video and copied everything he did and I fixed my machine.

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    I will continue to download all my videos to avoid ads. When they break the tools in such a way that this is no longer possible, I will stop watching videos from YouTube and seek entertainment elsewhere.

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    Yall I got yt premium as a perk from my carrier and tried it out, it’s fucking AWFUL. Mostly the yt app. I get better speeds, quality and less interruptions just using brave

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    Stop using it. I did and now I only use unofficial ways of watching the videos I want. And I download the ones I wanna watch again.

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    You can skip or avoid ads on YouTube, so meh. What really grinds my gears though, is the stupid, fucking algorhythm, which routinely offers me videos I just recently watched, vids in languages that I can’t speak, “current” affairs stories that are years old, and channels/vids that I have specifically blocked. I curse YouTube daily, but will bless anyone who has a viable alternative…

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      Adblocks allow you to not have to skip the ads physically, the algorithm is something else though. Now it starting to push right wing propaganda if your not logged in, and recently they said they are allowing even more now

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      You could put the subtitles for videos in languages you don’t speak. What was much more annoying to me was the automatic audio translation (it’s still available, but it seems YouTube doesn’t select it automatically when you watch a video in another language).

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      I forgot about that site. I knew it just as the host for TV series streams back in the day