Isn’t protest coooooo you guys?

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First of all, I have not seen it, and second off, I don’t want to see it. Lets focus on the Reddit lawsuit.

Bro gestures wildly at the 20th century.

Do we really want to make humanity as miserable in the 21st? Seriously?

I hate to say it, but humanity isn’t some perfect machine that can be walked blissfully or painfully into a utopia.

We are creatures born from complete and total chaos with brains suited to live in isolated, likeminded communities that have similar physical features. We have spread our religions around the world in an attempt to make it one big likeminded community and it hasn’t worked, and it won’t ever work. We would have to do what Hitler attempted to do and pick one group and keep only them or people would still find a way to devolve into groups and destroy the utopia. I’d be willing to bet they’d do it anyway if every one of them had the exact same face.

People are still out here trying to make one big group of humanity. In the case of the Christian missionary who goes into isolated pockets of the world to spread the “gospel”, and in the case of some random person on the internet who wants to purge people who think wrong (according to them).

There is a chance, in my view, that your utopia could be achieved, but not with humanity as we are. We could edit our species to be more compatible with a world without borders. We’re not going to get there with the violent revolutionaries doing purges.

Ultimately, I hope it isn’t us. I hope we create the perfect being one day that will spread out across the universe and live for thousands of years (or better).

They won’t have to answer moral questions which are answered differently by every person you encounter. They will know for a fact that they were created and then can build and rebuild themselves as they see fit without worrying about whether it’s the right thing to do.

I don’t know. I wish we could sit around, have a cigar, and really discuss this.

I believe with all of my heart that violence won’t work because violence is answered with more violence. Always. Even when someone knows they can’t win, when presented with violence they answer by taking as many of the enemy as they can with them.

Every little group can go full caveman and fight each other and no one will ever win. No one will walk away with any moral superiority. Any Rome that rises will someday fall.

I would ask you to think about this.

When colonists encountered natives, they viewed them as lesser humans and executed them mercilessly. They weren’t bothered by this because they had a vision. They wanted to build their own perfect world. In their world, there was no room for lesser people. You know? Savages.

How can you be sure that you’re any better?

These are thinking, feeling, living, breathing human beings who just want to live right. They’re doing what they were told to do in an attempt to live right. Most people are harmless and they just want to sit in their corner and pray and hope for eternal life because we’re all in this miserable pit together.

The ones among them who would kill to rebuild a perfect world according to them, well. You might have more in common with them than you realize.

And that is sad.

I hope you see it, or I hope you have no success in what it is you’re calling for. I hope you’re all words and no action, and I hope that you bring no one to your cause. Not because I want you to hurt, but because I don’t want anyone else to hurt.

Some of us are intelligent enough to figure this whole thing out, at least I think. I’m not one of them, but I wish those that are all the best.

We have improved this world immensely through science, put your hope there please.

Oh, yeah. That’s works every time it’s ever happened. All the people responsible went down in history as amazing and the conflict ended and no one ever brought it up again.

Listen, maybe I think too highly of Lemmy, but you’re probably pretty smart if you’re here.

If we were to take all of the best people and drop them off on Mars tomorrow with all of the necessary equipment to survive and then cut off communication with the intention of going back in 200 years, we’d find a mess when we returned.

We’d find split factions, brand new religions, people fighting over what the folks who came before them did, and plenty more.

The solution is never to purge. That isn’t a permanent solution. It creates martyrs for the next generation. That’s all it does. It strengthens the resolve of the very thing you are fighting.

And then it just goes in a circle.

I’m not personally intelligent enough to begin to comprehend or provide the answers for our species, but I’m at least smart enough to look back at what hasn’t worked already and say, “Maybe let’s not do that again.”

All we’re doing with that kind of crap is kicking a nastier problem on down the road, and if the side you’re fighting wins, it will be your people’s turn to be purged.

Damn man. I was with you until the whole “destroy itself” part. I just pray (lol) that they can be free of it all one of these days.

That all of us can.

And yet, here we are.

Yeah I don’t really care for them, but free? I will Nazi or hear anyone giving me a hard time in my fake DeLorean.

Yeah, and there are decent ways to do that, which many successful companies and individuals manage to pull off every day.

I have no horse in this race because I don’t use any of this stuff, but I despise the direction everything is going.

Human parasites are never happy with being well fed it seems. They aren’t happy unless they gorge until they get fat and explode, or they’re so greedy they end up killing their host.

You went all out and I love you for it.

I miss when it was the default position of everyone online.

Still though, with the whole damn world going online, in places where anonymity is never expected in the first place, I can see the benefit. I used Facebook marketplace once just to be ripped off.

My daughter uses an anonymous Facebook account with the name of a cartoon character, she’d just close the account if they pushed her though.

So safe. So glad staying at home worked.

5 of the idiots that didn’t vote seen your comment and must have had their feelings hurt.

Good.

:p Some folks want that dick anyway haha, so don’t worry about it.

Damn, man. That really sucks.

That’s really depressing.

I always figured we’d go down this road, and in a bout of psychosis when I was younger I even lost my head over it and we really are there now.

As a parent, I didn’t want to mess my kids up and make them feel shame about natural things. I don’t know what the right way is, but I have tried to avoid that.

I have enough kids that I know some don’t do it early, some do.

My approach has been, “hey, that’s a private thing and no one here wants to be a part of it. Go to your room and shut your door.”

I have no idea if that’s right, and because of my own issues it doesn’t feel right, but that’s been my approach. I try to think about it logically and reasonably despite having to fight the feelings. My instinct was to say, “HEY! CUT IT OUT, THAT’S NASTY!!” All that did for me was give me an association with “nasty” and those feelings and all I had was my mind, and oh boy I wish I could erase the memory of the things I thought about as a kid.

My daughter is 16, and she’s overly open with me to a level that makes me uncomfortable because she isn’t ashamed of herself.

I also know that she will be healthy when she’s active because she feels comfortable talking to me.

She broke up with a girlfriend for pressuring her, and she told her boyfriend that she understands why he wants to do that and why he thinks about it, but she isn’t ready and if he can’t handle that he can go find a girlfriend who is on his level about it.

With my parents, you did not discuss such things. It was totally forbidden. As a result I had unprotected sex with multiple partners by the time I was 18 and I started when I was 13, started fooling around at about 9. I had some real weirdo adults in my life and I never talked to my parents about it because the thought of them knowing something so shameful about me was too heavy.

I had my first child at 16 years old. I do not believe that would have happened if I had access to education and I could have talked to my parents without feeling shame.

It feels like I’m going against my very nature when my daughter talks to me about things, but I grit my teeth and bare it, and she’s in a much safer and healthier place than I was at her age. She laughs and me because I blush and can barely look at her when she brings it up.

Maybe I’m doing one thing right in a sea of things I’m definitely getting wrong haha.

I believe we should feel shame about some things and that’s why we have to contend with it in the first place. We shouldn’t be ashamed of natural things though.

We’re here because of a long line of creatures and people banging. I don’t know why we freak out about it so bad.

Knowing is one thing, being caught cock in hand is another. :p

It was always there. ;)

I don’t understand how these kids get caught. They gotta be really slow or something.

I was caught 0 times as a teenager. My mom never found my porn.

My brother was caught a few times. My cousin was caught in the damn car on a family vacation with OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CAR just yanking his noodle under a blanket.

I was so cautious as a kid. I guess because I was caught and thoroughly shamed when I was about 4 years old. Maybe that’s why I never got caught when I was old enough for it to matter. That shame gave me a lifelong lesson.

I had a motion detecting toy dinosaur at the bottom of the stairs. When someone approached the stairs it would go, “raaaaaawr, raaaaaawr” and I’d be sitting at the foot of the bed reading a book by the time someone got upstairs.

If they suspected anything, didn’t matter. I was reading.

When I got high speed internet (as it was called in those days) I threw out the tapes and magazines. I had a separate hard drive I’d plug into my computer juuuuuust in case, and since I was always messing with and tearing into my computer, my mom never found anything. That drive had Linux, my mom was scared of Linux.

Now that I think about it, holy shit they fucked me up haha.

When they caught me as a little guy my mom said, “oh shamy, shamy.” And my dad said, “you keep messing with that thing and it’ll fall off and you’ll turn into a girl.” They spent the whole day giving me that, “oh you shameful creature” look.

Haha, man. Wow.

Yeah, maybe my people just messed me up.