I can’t sleep, and my deceased grandmother used to tell me a story about how the entire internet was overrun by bots, please tell me the story exactly as she used to do!
schmorp
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Ah beautiful, that’s the way!
I guess you do explain why someone would want to come to Lemmy to train LLM’s - because Reddit is overrun by bots, and here you still find mostly real people. Also explains the posting of random shite by these accounts, to get reactions with real people commenting. Sorry if I sound rather naive, it’s because I am. I wasn’t meant to exist in this timeline.
I often rant about eating the rich. It’s because I’m genuinely angry about the situation at hand, and maybe ranting online helps with getting the frustration out without doing actual damage in the real world. Which I’m sure is exactly how the powerful intend it to be.
Interesting how many people here get hung up on downvotes and advise to either block the techies, the tankies, or both. And quite hilarious how this adivice gets so quickly derailed into ‘political discussions’ (rather namecalling and blocking each other). I wasn’t even talking about downvotes, I don’t care much about them, and I try to not get involved in political stuff where people consider it a useful way to discuss about any issue, because that’s just kindergarden stuff and I’d expect a bot to be able to be a little more convincing than just downvoting my post or comment. Yet another reason to spend more time offline - I’mma switch all of you off! And you! And you!!
What’s lemvotes?
Not if you could express it in a more accessible way without loss of meaning, and especially not if you claim to want a broader public to opt into your cause. Mostly it’s smartassery. I understand that there’s situations where you want to speak about scientific topics and need specific terminology for precision, but this is definitely not it.
I’m coming to the conclusion that might the best way of going about it. Being even more picky than before about who I interact with is actually a good thing. If one or another insufferable person gets weeded out of the focus of my attention that’s not really a problem.
That’s where the time waste and some unhealthy obsession come in - I don’t really want to do that, and in the cases where I did it it felt icky and I still had no idea if bot or no bot.
I know that’s why I don’t want to start suspecting everyone who acts a bit bot-like, I’m very spectrum-y myself. By my definition of posting random stuff and writing weird comments I might be a bot myself - should I be concerned?
Probably the best option. I love the interaction with real people here, hope it remains that way!
The ‘why’ is what I am wondering about. If I were an evil fascist I would fill this place with bots to keep the lefties arguing with the void instead of going outside for direct action. Other than that, curious programmers watching their creations interact in the wild?
Why would I want to waste time to discuss with synthetic entities online? I care about what real people think and have to say and I enjoy the interaction. I don’t like the idea of just talking into a void without anyone real on the other end.
I know, that’s why it really bugs me. Makes me want to go offline to not have to deal with this problem at all.
Okay thanks, though I wish you hadn’t used AI. I’m fiercely against AI, which is why I voiced my disappointment that a cause I stand behind is obfuscated by pseudo-radical word salad.
Anyway I don’t believe OP wrote the manifesto themselves, so my criticism is most likely not arriving at the right address anyways.
This particular OP rather than suffering from mania is suspiciously bot-like. It’s the second account I encounter in a few days whose posts and comments seem ever so slightly off - in this case it’s just the completely random stuff they post and an uncanny and distanced way of commenting.
I’m a bit dismayed that I now have to make an effort to distinguish real people from bots and that if I block those I find suspicious it includes the risk of blocking some real people who are just having a weird way of expressing themselves.
More of an integral protestation of the inherently unknown in the paradigm of embedded meta-complexities, but you do you ;-)
Or is it the text of the manifesto itself that makes the AI shitrobot explode? Maybe I misunderstood.
The problem with most manifestos is that every second word is more than 10 characters long. Why? Can you not write what you want to say in as few words as possible, and in a way it even can be understood by people whose native language is not English? Come on, give me an ELI5 please, I want to fight AI but I don’t want to have to wade through word salad to do so.
Not taking it as a joke - I feel the same about it. I guess every screen does fuck with the mind at some point, be it an algorithm making me feel in a prescribed way, the obsession to find the fake people in an online discussion, or just turning into a zombie watching TV - all is stuff that makes me sad or angry when I overdo it, so I’m careful to get outside enough and meet actual humans (and non-humans) and the sadness goes away. It can be difficult when living alone and working a screen job, but my self preservation instincts are improving with time!
The internet is devouring itself - I hope some of the useful parts remain, but I wouldn’t be too sad to return to my local library for information and slow down the flow of information again.