Destroying sources of data is quite fascist.

It’s exceptionally difficult to build a browser from the ground up.

But if anyone could do it, it would be a company with the money and (supposed) intelligence they have in their ranks.

There’s a group making a new browser engine though, I think it’s called ladybird?

I never meant to imply that Thread was the only solution to WiFi based IOT being bad. Just that it is a forward looking choice that has interoperable support from the dominant computing platforms. This is why IKEA is moving to it.

I see someone replied about security. But I was just taking about stability.

Most people don’t have super beefy wifi routers. Many have whatever shit their ISP sent them. These are fine for your average number of laptops and phones, etc. but if you then throw on 10 more 2.5GHz WiFi IOT devices, you are probally going to run into devices randomly dropping off the wifi, etc.

Additionally, wifi is usually chosen over other protocols by manufacturers due to the cost of hardware and development. So they are often lower quality. (This is only one reason)

But sure, if you have a super awesome 2.5GHz wifi setup and high quality wifi devices, maybe things will work out just fine. But my personal experience with WiFi tells me I shouldn’t clutter my WiFi.

Also, if you were curious, yes: almost all WiFi IOT devices are 2.5GHz only.

“What?! We help people budget!”

“What?! We help people when times are tough!”

“What?! 73% of our customers pay us zero interest!”

I misread the way you presented your questions then. Apologies.

And Matter is modeled after HomeKit.

It reminds me of how the MP4 container that became a standard is modeled after the MOV container.

It’s common for standards backed by consortiums to be modeled after something that is already successfully achieving the goals of the system.

It’s still 2.4, but it meshes and extends itself with more devices.

If you have an exceptionally bad RF environment, maybe you will have issues.

But keep in mind that IOT devices are not usually broadcasting in the way WiFi is. The impact of 10 Thread devices is not the same as 10 old school 802.11 devices.

Thread is still better than 2.4ghz WiFi for IOT, and I would say this is true for the vast majority of people. But maybe there is a small percentage who have such an intense RF situation that they will need a different spectrum. But really, it sounds like you are possibly either an outlier, or are misunderstanding the shape of the situation. Lamenting that a phone or tablet can’t use zwave for networking is really strange.

They won’t be the cheapest ones out there. But there are multiple options.

All of the major platform holders agreed to come together and interoperate with this one. And like others said, it supports IPv6.

Still yet another standard, but it’s one that’s not controlled by a single vendor. Its setup to be more like WiFi and Bluetooth than any other standard has been in the past. IMO.

Thread is just as efficient based on the few battery operated motion sensors I have. That’s another reason Matter over Thread is better than Matter over WiFi.

I personally won’t buy another IoT device unless it’s Matter over Thread.

With that said, if you already use home assistant, and what you have works well enough. I wouldn’t rush to upgrade. But I would choose Matter + Thread over older technologies moving forward.

If you want to move to all HomeKit, then the upgrades are worth it.

In an ideal future world, Matter + Thread devices won’t need a vendor app to work. They just connect to your Amazon Voice assistant, or your Google Home, or your Apple HomeKit setup directly. (Or Home Assistant)

In the future we should see more vendors selling Matter compatible devices that don’t even offer an app. But this is down the road.

Remains to be seen? What other information are you waiting for?

I’ve been using Thread devices for ~5 years now.

Thread is a wireless standard meant to sit next to Bluetooth and WiFi.

Matter is a home automation protocol can that be used over Thread or WiFi. Ideal Matter devices use Thread instead of WiFi because running a bunch of home devices like light bulbs or switches on your WiFi is a recipe for disaster.

Matter is important because it provides native compatibility among different platforms.

Service contracts are where the money is at!

Sure, then the post just doesn’t need any upvotes, imo.

I find mass down votes on such things to be toxic behavior. Tech savvy or not. I mean, it’s basically toxic nerd behavior.

And that was just an example on hand. I’ve seen it in other communities too, again, when the news was positive or neutral and fit the community even better than talking about a single web browser in a general tech community.

I should add that this phenomenon overlaps with another, where a post will get a bunch of downvotes initially, and then “recover” or get back past zero. Many of these seem to be related to brigading or malicious bot activity. So, many of the examples I’ve run across end up being something else.

Just for context, I usually browse Lemmy All and my Home feed with the Active/hot in the last 6 hours view. So I see lots of young posts, relatively speaking.

This is why copaganda is/was important. (The hundreds of cop/detective shows that almost always solve the case.)

A cat person would never do such a thing.

From my understanding, that’s what has been removed, and why another thread about ICE officers being ambushed / shot by vigilantes on the 4th is locked.

“Discussing politics” meaning calling for violence? You could start your own community for that if you want.

It’s often a place for Linus to rant about how he understands business better than his audience.