Depends on how the project and how long they have been around.

Wouldn’t call that a “summary”, but interesting read all the same. Thanks for the link.

I’m so fed up that I’m about to go all in on linux smartphones as long as phone, sms and data work. Everything else. Guess I don’t need it. To my knowledge those things do work. I just need to see how solid they are.

Seems like they are making a big deal out of nothing. This isn’t one of those instances where a false sense of security is being presented. If whatever tool that the user is using to test their ad blocking capabilities isn’t adequate. They will very quickly figure that out when they still get ads. How does any of this result in “Doing more harm than good”?

Again the type of people who probably visit communities like this know that. If the profile is accurate and they know that these people are more resistant to these kinds of tactics. Isn’t just a waste of money to bid on showing that person an ad in the first place. I personally don’t even connect my tv to the internet and I run linux, so I doubt either of said devices are talking to anything. Ads outside that someone play your favorite song would need to build a profile on you on your digital devices and then somehow correlate that to you the individual when you go into stores.

I know you said you don’t think are all the way there, but without getting facial recognition involved. I don’t see how they would correlate the two in the first place. Even then there are still holes, but that is besides the point. My main point is that someone whom meets the criteria that I described in my first comment seems like a waste on money to advertise to if you are one of the advertisers who are bidding on these spots.

Why is it that if they have this information and build these supposedly accurate profiles about you that they would still be willing to show ads at all to the kind of people who are likely to frequent this community? For example, if someone who runs linux, adblockers, firefox with strict profile, etc, etc is being broadcast to these advertisers. Why would they want to bid for advertising space for that person at all?

• Phone numbers
• social security numbers

Stop making personal information into digital ids because when it inevitably ends up in some kind of data breach. These companies all throw their hands up saying sucks to be you.

Exactly. Another example of people who are on forums like this are worlds apart from people who know quite literally less than nothing about computers.

And nothing of value was lost.

All too often it is a downgrade though. A lot of those webapps have terrible search and I only want to search for what is on the current page anyways. For example reddit search has been notoriously bad for a long time. Half the forums online seem to be using the exact same open source software with the exact same terrible search. When all too often I just want to find what is on the current page anyways.

Browsers shouldn’t allow half of the stuff that they allow. You have to do the same thing not just with copy and paste, but also searching on the page with ctrl + f. Like I don’t care that websites won’t to create their own experience. Don’t mess with browser behavior.

I have people whom I still need to explain copy and paste to on a regular basis. Trust me, I understand.

To summarize what I was telling another person. The number of people who care are far outnumbered by the number of people who don’t. It doesn’t matter if you or I or all 10,000 (just a random number for the sake of argument) of the people subscribed to a sub like this were to cancel when r/justworks or r/normie (made up subreddits for the sake of argument) has 100,000,000 who don’t give a damn about computers, privacy, or anything else beyond the service working or not.

I know you weren’t using the number 5 as a hard example, but a thing that people still don’t seem to realize is that the people in threads like this are the people that actually care. Even if the few thousand redditors who subscribe to a subreddit where they discussed that topic were to all (and I mean 100% of them) cancel there subscriptions. That is still only a drop in the bucket for Netflix. Losing a few thousand subscribers is still nothing if they made more money with the addition of ads.

I don’t think this commenter is refuting that fact, but simply doesn’t believe that businesses are going to pass off any savings to the consumer. Many of them will simply pocket the savings.

Well, the PDF format was created by Adobe and even though they somehow got it to technically be considered an open document format. They are to my knowledge still the only entity with a complete implementation in existence. Just some food for thought.

Exactly. I have used quite a few products and my thoughts have been. That’s cool, but when would I ever need this? The few useful usecases I have for it could use a small local model for very specific purposes and that’s it. Not make them billions of dollars level of usefulness.

Oooooorrr…Let’s just break them up like we should have done a long time ago.

That would certainly be a weird one.

Glad that it works for you. I may have to switch over to the flatpak then.