At least one journalist was hospitalized after Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were seen cursing out, grabbing and shoving reporters on a public elevator.According to amNewYork, ICE agents were apprehending a suspected immigrant inside the elevator at 26 Federal Plaza in Lower Manhattan o…
“a suspected immigrant”
Coming to the US is now a crime. I hope everyone is paying attention.
Liberals laid all the groundwork.
Chinga La Migra.
I’m honestly curious when people are gonna start actually ambushing and executing these ICEcubes, because they’re making it pretty obvious that they’re clear and present dangers to civil society, and generally enemies of perfectly normal and fully law abiding citizens (not to mention the vast majority of absolutely harmless undocumented immigrants that are being targeted as scapegoats).
Well if people start executing ICE I’m not going to say anything about it.
It’s like how you aren’t legally required to render aid in California. If I saw a wrecked car with a maga bumper sticker, then I didn’t see a wrecked car ;)
They’re basically a far-right militia at this point.
26 Federal Plaza
That building houses immigration services. They are attacking people coming to scheduled appointments.
Worst of the worst
Truly I want someone to just use their second amendment right in response to something like this
It’s coming. They’re officallt trying to “declare war” on American cities. There is going to be violent backlash, and unfortunately that’s exactly what they want.
There’s no way out of it now. Either bend over and take the fascism, or fight for your freedom.
Peaceful protesting isn’t going to do it, and good luck thinking elections are going to matter. Look what they’re currently doing to the Democrat that just won the House seat. Refusing to swear them in.
We will have to kill Nazis again. If you don’t, you’ll have a boot on your neck till they drag you off to the next concentration camp.
Yeah, I kinda think they’re trying to spark a civil war. They believe they will win and then they will “purge” everyone who opposes them.
I don’t believe they think they’ll win, but winning isn’t the goal, doing irreparable damage to America is the point. The entire goal has always been to hurt America at the behest of foreign masters, the most effective way to do that is just to ignite the powder keg of political divide that already exist.
Funny. I think the same thing would happen to MAGATs, Klanners, and the 1%.
As ever, I won’t start the fight, but I intend to be the one who walks away from it. Preferably with other minorities.
Yeah definitely be ready to fight if it comes to it but it’s a worst-case scenario. A civil war breaking out here would be devestating to everyone
No doubt about that. Unfortunately, I don’t think we get a good choice.
I mean, look at how in bed he is with a certain someone doing the same thing overseas.
Which one you ask? Yes.
It doesn’t matter at this point. We do nothing they complete their agenda. We do something maybe they use it as an excuse to expedite their agenda.
We do nothing they complete their agenda. We do something maybe they use it as an excuse to expedite their agenda.
If the outlook is the same either way, might as well bag a few Nazis on the way down.
Which is exactly what I and many, many other people have been screaming for months and months. Every day you wait, it’s a harder fight. So your choices are act now and suffer, or act later and suffer worse. Sucks, but that is your reality.
I mean I don’t really know what other response one could give? “Let’s drum circle this bitch out?” The only other response I could imagine is a general strike, which I’m all for but doubt will happen
honestly yeah. stop working. sing and dance. it was basically what happened with the hippies. they did not go get jobs and do the stuff they were supposed to.
If things get worse slowly, people will continue to make excuses for why they can’t. If things get worse quickly, the odds of a general strike increase as people get more desperate.
The majority of guns are owned by white heterosexual male Christian Republicans. What’s the group that the fascists haven’t been targeting again?
The thing about guns is that they have caused incredible harm, and a lot of people have looked at the statistics and realized that gun ownership makes their family less-safe. So most gun ownership is related to irrational fear or a heritage of gun culture. I’m in the latter group myself, and own dozens of firearms, but I’ve never been under the illusion that my gun ownership made me safer on average.
But these are not normal times, and I fear that many minorities and those on the political left may realize too late that guns can suddenly stop being evil when they become necessary. And I absolutely believe they’ll be cracking down on gun ownership. If trans gun ownership isn’t banned in a year I’ll be shocked.
And I won’t be surprised in the least if NICS checks for registered Democrats start getting funky. I don’t think Patel’s FBI will be dumb enough to deny all Democrats, but it would be very easy for them to put a delay flag on a check.
Under a delay the full check is pending and the firearm can’t be sold for 3 days, after which it can proceed so long as a deny hasn’t been returned. But most major retailers won’t transfer on a delay until a proceed comes back, which can take as long as 6 weeks.
And since NICS checks are only valid for 30 days from the date the check begins, a delay that is returned as a proceed after 6 weeks isn’t valid and can’t be used to sell a firearm. But since it’s a proceed there’s no grounds to challenge it.
Not entirely true. Huge numbers of leftists own guns, it’s mostly liberals/centrist that drank the gun prohibition koolaid. Look what it’s got them? Cause it’ll never happen here, remember? Oh, whoops. I see people realizing their mistake most quickly with black people; black panthers and other community defense groups in black neighborhoods have been making a come back. Pray more people get on the band wagon. And if you can’t legally own guns, there are alternatives. Crossbows, compound bows, muzzle loaders. Being armed in some way is the best way to keep your communities safe from outside violence.
Also a lot of right wingers have way too many guns, and not in a oh it’s a collection sort of way but in a why do you have 4 AR15s in 5.56 sort of way. It’s not like they can use them all simultaneously so why have more than one standard rifle? Regardless my solution to getting a gun in the case of random violence is to find a Maga flag and wait until I see them with one, then I’m smacking them with a shovel, axe, or crowbar and jacking the firearm. Worst case scenario I get killed boohoo.
That’s what Trump wants, too.
Here’s the thing, if it got to that point, it is 100% game over for America. No coming back. Guns are a tool to delete life. That is their purpose. Randomly shooting random people to prove some kind of one-off point doesn’t solve the problem, it justifies Stephen Miller’s warped reality of furiously masturbating to the suffering of others by actively sending shoot-to-kill military into every city. They have many more resources at their disposal than civilians. Same reason every other targeted shooting has been absolutely pointless thus far, and if nothing else emboldened Evil, capital E.
What you can do if you are even in America, is get to a range, (find a good one, there are garbage ranges, and they should be avoided) rent a firearm, and train. Take classes. Do your due diligence in safe firearms handling. You should have already started this in November, but no time like the present to catch up. If you have the resources, acquire firearms once you’re trained, they don’t have to be fancy or new, they just have to work. Stock up on ammo. The classes will be sobering as if they are good, they get into the nitty gritty of displacing the most amount of fluids and all sorts of things that will likely unsettle if not gross out most civilized human beings. You’re also meeting fellow firearm owners, which is a community all its own, the more citizens armed, the less the Nazis can take out, the more we can all reinforce to each other that we’re in this together and it’s just a bunch of rich angry soulless sycophants trying to destroy America. There’s a reason the Swiss issue firearms to every home.
You also should have been stocking up on supplies, food, medication (medications can be time-consuming to stock up on due to silly insurance, we’ll fix that later) since last November. Not crazy prepper level storage, but enough to get by through supply chain gaps. The pandemic taught everyone how to do that already. Most of all, after all of that, you should be spending as little as you can into the US economy and prepare for a 0 spend. If we can get any consistent messaging and language out there, a general strike should come sooner than later. We’re past the hot shit summer and have some time before winter. Should minimize life loss due to such a thing. There are 340some million people in America. Not everyone will (or be able to) join in, but it just takes a few key choke points to shut the whole thing down. How about tomorrow when the Federal government shuts down? (But realistically, probably some time in the near future.)
Johnny Larper all by himself with an AR-15 is going to be no match for the loosely-trained ICE dolts due to sheer numbers, and especially not a Predator drone they won’t even see or hear coming if it actually got real. (Although, hopefully our military has more respect for America than the current administration, and point their weapons in the correct direction.)
Edit: I chuckle at the uninformed (and/or troll bots) that are downvoting reality. Life, unfortunately, is not binary. Keep downvoting, but at least go out and read (well, hard for the bots) some documents on history, civilization, community, defense, medicine, care. There is a lot (especially in America) that school does not teach. Bonus points: Read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and amendments, the Gettysburg Address even. Actually read the words. Figure out what you think your nation actually means to you. Not talking “patriotism” which is stupid blind faith - just the dirt you live on and your community and what you find acceptable behavior.
Even more important than that is ORGANIZE WITH YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS. We can not survive fascism with 300 million individuals, we must ally and work together.
And I don’t even mean like form a militia, I mean any group, whether that’s mutual aid, a soup kitchen, a book club. Get to know your neighbors.
Yes, thanks for that, I forgot to mention that very important point. We need our communities more than ever. When stocking up, try and stock a little extra so you can help your family, friends, neighbors if they’re short on anything. Especially the medications and medical supplies, double-especially for the old and infirm. Kindness and generosity is the real strength.
All the bags of beans and bullets in the world do nothing if there isn’t a community working together. Any and all community.
Wait for the military to do that when they get the order of no return
I see this a lot, and I gotta ask, as a fellow Lefty: what is stopping you? You ALSO can use your 2nd as well if you are a citizen.
Stop hoping another mentally ill person does it for you, that’s just being lazy and spreading rhetoric.
Calling for violence online is not cool, go be the change you want to see in the world yourself
I don’t condone it but I’m amazed it hasn’t happened already.
- an Australian
powerful imagery in the video linked in the article