The ex-Fox News host railed against decades of work to diversify the all-volunteer military as he announced initiatives to effectively exclude women from combat roles and relax protections against hazing and bullying of troops

More than 800 of America’s top military leaders sat silent and showed no reaction as ex-Fox News presenter turned Pentagon boss Pete Hegseth told them he was issuing a series of new directives that will make it harder for women to serve in combat and easier for personnel to engage in hazing and bullying without repercussions during an unprecedented gathering of flag-rank officers at a Marine Corps base in Virginia on Tuesday.

The Secretary of War — a title not used by the head of the U.S. military establishment since 1947 but revived by President Donald Trump earlier this month — told the group of admirals, generals, and their senior enlisted advisers he was “ending the war on warriors” and complained that too many of their peers had been put in their roles “for the wrong reasons” including their race and gender.

Standing in front of a large American flag backdrop, he attacked by name several of the leaders’ retired peers, telling them that the department’s “compass heading” was “clear.”

“Out with the Chiarelli, the McKenzies and the Milleys and in with the Stockdales the Schwartzkopfs and the Pattons,” he said, denigrating former Army Vice Chief of Staff General Peter Chiarelli, ex-U.S. Central Command commander and Marine Corps General Kenneth McKenzie Jr, and ex-Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman and Army General Mark Milley, each of whom has been critical of Trump or his administration.

“The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies,” he added.

Hegseth also groused about efforts to open up combat roles to women and initiatives to “weed out so-called toxic leaders” and blamed “foolish and reckless” politicians for having “set the wrong compass” and causing the Pentagon to lose its way.

Hegseth, an Iraq War veteran who attained the rank of Major in the Army National Guard but became a critic of the Pentagon’s efforts to open up military service to women, racial minorities and LGBT+ persons, said the War Department must “restore a ruthless, dispassionate and common sense application of standards” that are “uniform, gender neutral and high.”

He told the assembled leaders he was issuing a directive to ensure that “every designated Combat Arms” role across all branches “returns to the highest male standard only,” all but reversing a 2015 directive from then-Defense Secretary Ashton Carter to open all combat roles to women.

“If you do not meet the male level physical standards for combat positions … it’s time for a new position or a new profession,” he said. “If women can make it excellent. If not, it is what it is. If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs, so be it.”

The War Secretary also claimed — without offering evidence — that the Pentagon had lowered standards “to hit racial quotas as well” and said the revised standards he was promulgating are based on what he called the “1990 test,” which compares today’s standards to those in 1990, a time when women were barred from combat roles and LGBT+ persons were banned from serving.

“The 1990s test is simple. What were the military standards in 1990 and if they have changed, tell me why was it a necessary change based on the evolving landscape of combat, or was the change due to a softening, weakening or gender based pursuit of other priorities? 1990s seems to be as good a place to start as any,” he said.

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    Its miniscule.

    but I think after all those commanders getting corralled into what was essentially a coked out political campaign event. and listening to all the dumb shit that was said with 100% seriousness.

    I think the chances of the Military doing a Coup against the US (Trump) Government, just rose from Zero, to nonzero.

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    They so desperately wanted a standing ovation that breached military protocol but showed the deep, blind loyalty of the military to their piss-pot dictator. Their yearning is palpable.

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    They know he’s a sycophantic ass clown but the government has them cowed enough to keep mum

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    What were the military standards in 1990 and if they have changed, tell me why was it a necessary change based on the evolving landscape of combat, or was the change due to a softening, weakening or gender based pursuit of other priorities?

    I would argue that the number is boots on the ground, the actual number of troops ready to deploy is probably the most militarily significant factor in any military in history. That said, if laws changed to allow LGBT+ citizens to take part in the military, that likely increases the number of people volunteering to serve by about 10%. That seems incredibly significant to me.

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    In a better timeline the top brass rushed the stage & pulled Kegseth apart like a chicken.

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    So the whole “recalling all the generals home for a big meeting” was just “this could have been an email” media bluster.

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      Trump gave them permission to clap if they wished. I take it as something of a good sign that none of them broke norms and joined in.

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        It’s probably more a sign of their discipline. Some of them might have even been tricked to react when they weren’t supposed to in boot camp. I only saw one guy a actuay clap at the end of the video.

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    We have a literal child running our military, we might honestly want to get ready for any shit China or Russia or Iran might try to pull while we have our pants down.

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      The children running the show are doing more damage than China or Iran could ever hope for. From an outside perspective it’s actually incredible how badly things are going for the US in only 9 months.

      Russia, on the other hand, seem to be part of it.

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      Who bankrupted several veterans organisations and dishonoured his marriage vows several tonnes

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      “Hey you fat fucks, none of this girl shit. We’re going to all do push-ups and jack off to the good kind of porn and get cool Hearts of Iron 4 tattoos and pray to the Real Jesus and any of you phony losers who complains can hit the fucking bricks! Now lets go fight some wars because we love peace!”

      Punches the air

      Chops crotch repeatedly

      Tries to do a stage dive, hesitates, and walks it back pretending to look cool about it

      Yeah, I can’t imagine why this fell flat.

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      Starting to think the military may be the last hope of true allegiance to the flag.

      Trump needs a war to declare martial law and then undermine elections. He can then claim he’s only doing what Zelenskyy has done.

      Think we also saw this tried in South Korea didn’t we?

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          In the backdrop of this, does that even remotely matter?

          It only matters insofar as the courts uphold that; and even if they do, Courts have no enforcement arm to ensure adherence.

          This will ultimately rest on how much individual states or these military generals want to unilaterally push back.

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          Ukraine’s constitution doesn’t allow elections during war

          Seems like a big flaw in the Constitution, given that the public now has no way to remove leadership that’s running a war this badly.

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            Hard to say he’s running the war badly considering that Ukraine still exists 3 years later when most outside observers were wondering if Ukraine would last 3 days.

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            given that the public now has no way to remove leadership that’s running a war this badly.

            What? David is holding his own against Goliath, but that’s “running a war this badly”?

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              David is holding his own against Goliath

              If that’s the case, Zelensky will win in a landslide and be pronounced Kind of Judea.

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                He said the other day he doesn’t want to seek another term after the war is over.

                Can’t blame him, I’d want out of it too if I were in his position.

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                  He’s exhausted, his job is basically begging foreigners for money and weapons, and his family has been in hiding the whole war.

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                  Netanyahu has made similar remarks.

                  But when the war never ends and there’s no election to campaign for, its an easy pledge to hold on to.

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                When your country is being invaded by a colonizer, elections would be, at best near impossible to run free and fairly, at worst a guarantee for interference

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                  elections would be, at best near impossible to run free and fairly

                  Americans ran elections during the US Civil War in 1864. West Germany held elections in the middle of the Berlin Blockade in 1949. Give me a fucking break.

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            Badly? Even Trump, Putin’s good buddy, has said that he believes Ukraine can not just win, but take back all the territory that Russia took. So, how is that running a war “badly”?

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              Moldova just elected an EU-friendly government in a landslide, despite perpetual claims of election interference.

              Poland and Romania also just put up a staunch anti-Russian nationalists.

              The notion that Russia can rig elections in their favor hasn’t born out over the last two years. Anti-Russia candidates are sweeping Eastern Europe.

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                  Is Moldova at war?

                  Does it matter?

                  And how did Moldova achieve it?

                  They were the incumbent party and they grew their majority by pinning economic decline on the Russian invasion of their neighbor.

                  By booting out the obvious traitors.

                  The BEP wasn’t booted out. They have the second highest majority of MPs in Parliament.

                  A model for America.

                  :-/ Do you know anything about Moldovan politics?

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                The notion that Russia can rig elections in their favor hasn’t born out over the last two years.

                Doesn’t mean they haven’t been trying

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                  Which country should be holding elections, on these terms? It seems like everyone gets to claim a rival state is meddling in their politics.

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        Look at reporting for any coup that has ever happened.

        Take note of how those reports talk about which side has support of the military.

        “The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies,”

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        S Korea didn’t have a legislature of men with their mouths suction cupped to the ass of that leader. They knew their duty, and climbed past military through windows and such to make it happen.

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        Trump can say and do whatever he wants … it really doesn’t matter

        The thing of it is … what will the country and the rest of the US government ALLOW HIM to get away with.

        Trump has no power … only the power that he is allowed to have … and so far, the US government, both political parties and the citizens have been more than willing to allow him to get away with whatever he wants.

        I don’t blame some dumb orange politician … I blame the entire country for their shared collective stupidity.

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          …as a response to the President advocating for invading US cities to ‘train for war’ and all the other shit that violates the thing they are sworn to protect, the Constitution.

          Also, the more time goes on without any mention of the integrity of the last election while openly advocating for more and more election manipulation and voter disenfranchisement, the more I am convinced that the Republicans directly rigged the 2024 election instead of their regular tactics. It would be yet another thing that Republicans claimed Dems were doing because Republicans were planning or doing it already.

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          I did not say that. I simply said they may be our last hope of true allegiance to the flag. Military pledges loyalty to the Constitution; not the President.

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            Not trying to put words in your mouth.

            On the other hand, would you be surprised if someone actually said it?

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    “the sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies”

    It’s pronounced reich, dipshit.

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    I really, really hope that Hegseth takes his “war on beards” bullshit and tries to force the “Tier 1” / Special Mission Unit people to shave their beards and meet his grooming standards.