Two weeks ago, the military commander overseeing President Trump’s bombings of boats in the Caribbean Sea abruptly resigned. Admiral Alvin Holsey, the head of U.S. Southern Command, offered no explanation for the move. Neither did the Defense Department. He was less than one year into the job, making the departure even more inexplicable.

Since then, we’ve heard nothing about why Holsey stepped down. Yet in those two weeks, Trump’s campaign has only gotten more brazen and horrifically lawless. He ordered the bombing of four more boats this week, killing 14 more people, for a total of around 60 killed, even as the administration still refuses to share key intelligence or elaborate on its supposed legal rationale.

“I think we really need to hear from Holsey on this,” Smith told me.

Smith pointed out that there’s been a big public conversation about what military officials should do if they believe they’ve been given “illegal orders.” He noted that conventionally, they will sometimes “quit” their posts to signal this fear to the public.

“Holsey did in fact quit,” Smith said. “So we need to hear: Did he quit because he believed he was being given illegal orders?”

Smith said that Democratic staff communicated to GOP staff that Democrats want the committee—which is chaired by GOP Representative Mike Rogers—to seek Holsey’s testimony in a classified setting. GOP staff then asked the Pentagon for this testimony. “The Pentagon said no, and that was the end of it,” Smith said.

That’s deeply worrisome and should make lawmakers more determined to secure his testimony. But Republicans on the committee apparently are not pressing for it, even though lawmakers have the power to make it very clear that they want such testimony or even to compel it.

Smith allowed that military officials deserve some deference if they don’t want to testify—but said this isn’t a good reason to decline to press the point. In fact, given the circumstances, getting that testimony is plainly lawmakers’ responsibility to the country—at an absolute minimum.

“I think we’re in extraordinary times here,” Smith said. “So some of those normal rules should not apply anymore.”

Extraordinary times, indeed. This week, administration officials did brief senators on the bombings, which have now targeted 14 vessels, all under murky circumstances. But Democrats say this briefing was for GOP senators only, which may violate the legal requirement for bipartisan briefings. While the House Armed Services Committee did get a bipartisan briefing Thursday, Democrats told reporters that Pentagon lawyers scheduled to participate didn’t come and it was run only by a senior military officer who failed to answer their legal questions.

The administration has designated drug cartels as terrorist organizations while claiming Trump has inherent constitutional authority to order the strikes to defend the country against attacks. But as legal experts note, this gives Trump the power to unilaterally execute civilians who are not in any meaningful sense akin to terrorist groups or waging war against the United States, with zero due process. Meanwhile, lots of evidence casts doubt on whether some of these people were even trafficking drugs to the United States in the first place.

Smith said the official legal rationale—offered in this week’s Armed Services Committee briefing—has gotten even more troubling. He said administration officials claimed they now have the authority to bomb people who are merely “affiliated” with groups that Trump has designated as “narco-terrorists.” But under questioning, they refused to say what “affiliated” even means.

“They did not in any way, shape, manner, or form explain what the ceiling and floor are for ‘affiliated,’” Smith told me. “Theoretically, that could go beyond whether they’re in the actual action of moving drugs.”

On top of that, several people have survived the bombings, and they have all reportedly been repatriated to their home countries, rather than held as enemy combatants. So does this mean the administration lacks sufficient evidence to hold the people it is summarily executing?

"While the House Armed Services Committee did get a bipartisan briefing Thursday, Democrats told reporters that Pentagon lawyers scheduled to participate didn’t come and it was run only by a senior military officer who failed to answer their legal questions."

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      What do you expect to solve with this comment? It’s just an attack wrapped in smugness. You’re not going to gain anyone you didn’t already have on your side with this attack. Be part of the solution, not more of the problem.

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      Was it worth it trying to force a candidate on everyone that people liked even less than trump?

      I mean, I still voted for her, but it’s a fair question that the Democratic party should be asking themselves.

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        You couldn’t tell the difference between a capitalist and actual nazis and you’re just admitting it on the internet? I couldn’t imagine just announcing that i was that stupid to the whole world.

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          Excuse me? The second sentence of my comment says I voted Democrat. Did you stop reading after the first sentence? It’s only two sentences long.

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              Nope. Conservatives are evil assholes, full of malice and hate. They are so much worse than Democrats that I’m having trouble even coming up with the words.

              I’m just placing the blame for Trump’s election on the choice of the specific democratic candidate by Democratic leadership, rather than on the voters.

              If the party had held a primary and / or picked someone more popular, we wouldn’t be in this sickening position.

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                But Kamala was a good choice. Not necessarily for progressives, but for actually fighting back against the republicans. The blame for Trump’s election goes to trump voters for being stupid and malicious enough to fall for it, and then to spoilers and non voters for not having the basic understanding of how our federal system functions. This is ignoring the literal nazi propaganda the republican owned media and party have been passing for forty years. The blame belongs with trump voters and non-voters. Maybe a primary would have energized the non-voters, but it sure fucking didn’t in 16, so why would they try to spoil their own best shot? Most of the people that bitch about Dems fucking up don’t vote in Dem primaries in the first place so they’re the ones at fault. I guess it’s all academic at this point since there’s no going back. But we’re getting what we deserve because there’s maybe only twenty percent of Americans like us that actually care and are horrified at what’s happening. The majority of Americans either want this or are totally ok with this or everyone wouldn’t be pretending future elections will matter.

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                  She would have been a fine president. I’m not disputing that. But that doesn’t make her a good candidate. She LOST. To Trump. By definition, that makes her a bad choice as the candidate.

                  What’s easier; changing the minds of millions of individual voters, or running with a better candidate?

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    Who could have predicted that putting this dumbass alcoholic, axe throwing, Fox News hosting, lying ass motherfucker in charge of the entire U.S. military was a bad idea?

    Edit: dumbass alcoholic, axe throwing, Fox News hosting, lying ass, domestic abuse (am I forgetting anything else? Probably.) motherfucker.

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    Previously I said the Heritage Foundation regime was targeting Venezuela because of the whiny asshole oil companies.

    Well, now I believe that’s true, but it’s also because Venezuela can’t actually fight back.

    They don’t have the means to. They have a military. But the US Navy is overwhelming force. It was designed that way.

    This isn’t going to be the last country the regime bullies. This is how the HF operates. Expect Mob style tactics. Expect schoolyard bullying. That’s what they’re doing inside the country too.

    Please, world, boycott American products and services. The only language the people in power here speak is money. Don’t take vacations here. Don’t work for the companies. Don’t travel here for our healthcare, or our schools.

    It’s not safe. It directly, or indirectly, helps keep the HF in power. Spread the word to your neighbors, your friends, your political representatives.

    The citizens here are the only ones that can actually replace the regime. The corporations need to be cut off from their life source.

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      The fascists have a bully mentality, targeting not just a country that can’t fight back, but small boats that are most likely innocent civilians. They’re choosing the easiest targets to terrorize Latin America and project strength for their base.

      They don’t seriously care about challenging other powerful countries, only attacking and extorting ones who are in no position to retaliate. If they get meaningfully challenged by a country like China or Russia, they’d fumble it in the most cowardly way, immediately trying to run away from the problem. They hate any fight that isn’t rigged in their favor.

      All this said, I don’t see our citizens directly being able to threaten Trump’s power. Even with mass protests, general strikes, and pressure from rich people annoyed about their favor in the economy, his cult is far too loyal. There will never be a fair election in 2028, so the fascists will stay in power as long as Trump lives. The best we can do is prepare to take over in the power vacuum following his death.

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    given the circumstances, getting that testimony is plainly lawmakers’ responsibility to the country—at an absolute minimum.

    Republicans seem to be helping the Trump administration avoid taking responsibility for their crimes? How out of character.

    Republicans should be pressed to seek this, and if they refuse, they should be mercilessly hounded until they agree to do their jobs. The country may be going to war. They can’t be allowed to get away with anything less.

    I am so sick of these fucking passive aggressive bitches. Holding secret briefings that only Republicans can attend? Wtf is reality? It’s like we’re being dragged into fucking WWIII by that fugly skank Regina George.

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    MAGAts are pieces of human shit that just like to murder people. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    A guy like Holsey has incredible strength of will. Has surmounted challenges that I know would have caused me to give up shrink in fear and/or just die.

    What the fuck is he so afraid of ?

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      If I had to guess, probably the lawless administration that has continued to publicly murder innocent humans even after he quit, and seems to be daring anybody to try and stop them.

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    …the president of the united states of america is acting in bad faith and without legal consent of congress, the courts may rule such, but until congress and the enforcing arms of such, aka the united states military, decides to enforce the laws enacted, i guess the orange monkey administration can do as it pleases…

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        Commit high profile murders in international water until fucking a few children doesn’t seem important anymore.

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          …ding, ding, ding…the rich are so afraid of us finding out who fucks kids that they are sending nations to war or genociding the wrong brown people…

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    Smith? Just to clarify that:

    Representative Adam Smith—the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee