Over 30 aid massacres in the past 45 days. The death toll is over 1000.

2025 Gaza Strip aid distribution killings - Wikipedia

This is by design. The Gazan Humanitarian Foundation is a genocidal terrorist organization.

There’s far too many to name, but the first things that come to mind are Collateral Murder, Haditha Massacre, and literally anytime the US military has been involved in the Gazan genocide of the past year.

No, plane rides and sleepy time are not immoral in my opinion :)

There’s probably a good argument about plane emissions and climate change tho

It seems we are in agreement then, the troops are self-interested rational actors; all of the supposed virtues are propaganda.

But I think there is a moral imperative that says “do not obey immoral orders”, and that imperative does not come with a clause that says “unless there is a pending court case”.

Or to put it another way, do you expect our enlisted men and women to uphold the high moral virtues of honor, self sacrifice, and protection of innocents?

After seeing what horrors American soldiers are capable of, I’m not holding my breath.

That may be true, but it doesn’t excuse the list at all.

My country is responsible for the majority of international violence since WWII. I find that morally unacceptable.

I make posts like this because I want my country to do better. But the sad reality is we have yet to learn our lesson. We have been aiding and abetting an ongoing Holocaust for almost two years now.

My best guess is that the Chinese government will admit fault long into the future, when most of the accountability and backlash has already faded into history.

Which is no different than how the US has handled many of the atrocities I mentioned.

When will the US acknowledge and release info on the 100s of Yemeni and Pakistani civilian targets that were destroyed by drone strike? When will the US release the warcrimes reports from the War on Terror? Does the US even still have these warcrimes reports, or were they destroyed (as whistleblowers and Amnesty International have suggested they were)?

If you can’t answer questions like these without resorting to cries of “Whataboutism”, then fuck off hypocrite.

Your comment ignores the context that the US is doing anti-Chinese propaganda here, and there is no parity.

Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and China was releasing PR statements on every anniversary of every US atrocity. They would still be issuing multiple statements every day.

The “pressure on the cultural zeitgeist” you speak of is just “shoot, then cry”. The victims are forgotten.

Yep that’s exactly my point, the US is doing Whataboutism when it issues these PR stunts to condemn Chinese atrocities.

I agree that declassification is a great thing, but it is not so black and white. Not all info becomes declassified eventually, so much is covered up and destroyed.

For example, much is known about the My Lai massacre in the Vietnam War. Most of this information is known due to declassified documents. But these declassified documents also mention that there were over 100 My Lai-level massacres that occured, most of which we know nothing about. Army Chief of Staff Westmoreland was quoted saying we do a “My Lai each month”.

One of the largest, codenamed Speedy Express, reportedly killed 11,000 people, and was covered up at the highest levels.

It is not my intention to give other countries a pass. Indonesia is guilty of genocide in the case of East Timor; the US is guilty as well.

The genocide in East Timor is analogous to the ongoing genocide in Palestine.

Both genocides are not conducted by US personnel, but the majority of arms are supplied by the US. The US gives international legitimacy to the genocidal party, while running defense for it’s atrocities. The genocide in East Timor was ended by a phone call from the US president, and I am of the firm belief that the genocide in Gaza could be ended by a similar call. Previous Israeli atrocities were ended by calls from Reagan and Bush Sr.

As an American I think it’s helpful to put this into some sort of perspective.

Things the US won’t forget:

• Tiananmen Square (thousands dead)

Things the US will forget:

• Korean War (3mil civilian dead)

• Vietnam War (2mil civilian dead)

• Iraqi War (1mil civilian dead)

• Violent overthrow of East Timor (widely considered a genocide)

• Violent overthrow of Afghanistan (twice, over 1 mil dead)

• Violent overthrow of Nicaragua

• Violent overthrow of Grenada

• Violent overthrow of Panama

• Violent overthrow of Libya

• Coup d’etat of Guatemala

• Coup d’etat of Iran

• Failed Coup d’etat of Syria

• Failed Coup d’etat of Indonesia

• Many failed Coup d’etat attempts on Cuba

• Coup d’etat of Congo

• Coup d’etat of Laos

• Coup d’etat of the Dominican Republic

• Coup d’etat of Iraq

• Coup d’etat of Brazil

• Successful Coup d’etat of Indonesia (1 mil dead)

• Coup d’etat of Chile

• Multiple Coup d’etat of Bolivia

• Coup d’etat of Haiti

• Multiple Coup d’etat attempts on Venezuela

• Coup d’etat of Palestine

• Mass civilian casualties, destabilization of many governments, people subject to a lifetime of torture without a trial, all under the War on Terror

This list could be so much longer, but I gotta get to work.

If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred.

Yes, I hate the man who spent my tax dollars to bomb children living in tent cities.

I hate the man who failed so spectacularly as a candidate that he gave us president Trump.

I hate Genocide Joe.

When a genocidal war criminal gets a horrific terminal cancer, it is certainly cause for celebration.

Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.

Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.

Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.

Someone driving or operating machinery high is just as dangerous as someone driving drunk

You have a source or anything to back this idea up?

I delivered pizzas in downtown Seattle for a couple years, and most of my coworkers were constantly stoned. Many weren’t just hitting pens or joints, they would hit a fat dab with a torch lighter and then hop in their vehicle and make a delivery.

Both years I worked there, our delivery team got an annual award for having 0 vehicle accidents.

Obviously this is anecdotal, but if you run this same situation back with alcohol instead of weed, I am confident there would have been many accidents.

Yes, the current president is supporting genocide.

You don’t hear anyone on the left yelling about it? Maybe you should pay attention, protest movements are ongoing. Protest tactics and media coverage may change in the Trump era, but the anti-genocide movement is still strong in my opinion.

If you want to make some sort of political point then you should come out and say it. Hiding behind sarcasm is off putting when discussing a serious subject like genocide. Its almost like you don’t actually care.

Yes, the lie that Biden was pushing for a ceasefire gave him tons of political cover. It was one of his administration’s primary Gaza talking points. They used this lie to deflect against valid criticism for months.

Even AOC fell for the lie, saying Harris was working tirelessly for a ceasefire in Gaza

No, Gaza is still being bombed. Children are being intentionally starved. It’s still a crisis.